BaxterUK__ wrote:
..., but lets be honest, having to waste a slot on a perk just to escape this is just dumb.
Me- You should have a class set up to encounter everything you meet in the game you're playing at the moment. Being able to counter tactics from my opponents has made my gameplay a bit better than when I started.
I dont think they should completely burn it out, I just think it needs its effectiveness reduced a little, Even without the "Target finding ability" The sight by itself is probably one of the best in the game, The perks with it just make it a bit too good.
Me- The sight itself sucks, as it has no peripheral vision, just slightly better than a zoom or a DB because of its square shape, especially for people who ADS 24-7. Flanking them is your best bet. I used the TF a lot, I just moved on from it because I can do much better with a HyOp, even if I were to camp. DB is just as good imo as a TF, for campers or window people as you call them, but then again, they are sitting ducks. With an EMP deployed, its even worse, as the diamonds don't pop up anymore, and if you're not centered right, you can have 3-6 enemies in front of you and still be a tied sitting duck, and not get one kill. You do still have to aim the weapon it is on. You can be outgunned by one enemy with a pistol if you have the TF resticted from an EMP grenade, even if the TF was on an LMG. Had this happen to me a lot, I speak from the other side.
Heres a few things that I think could potentially level it out.
Smoke & Dust Spray - I've played a few games on domination where I've tried laying down smoke and then proceeding to the Flag and target finder has still spotted me somehow. I believe this should be changed. Also Being spotted through recently exploded lethal's dust upspray should be removed.
Me- Haven't had this happen for me yet, will try it out some time to see if the TF does indeed help me see enemies through smoke. As far as the explosion from a lethal, I'm not sure what you mean. Does the explosion reveal you momentarily and then it doesn't? even if you were behind cover? Please elaborate.
Behind objects - If your behind an object where only your chest an up is visable the target finder shouldnt be able to see you. Isn't this classed as advanced aim-bot headglitching?
Me- Why should't you be revealed as a target if only a hair is visible? I mean, it is a Target Finder... The way I see this is that you were the one headglitching, taking advantage of the headglitching spots to gain the advantage on this particular enemy. (BTW, I do NOT consider headglitching cheating. I'm also not too familiar with these spots, so I can say I don't headglitch, unless you consider shooting from behind a shield as such, then I'm guilty. To my defense, I wasted two points with a wildcard and a range weapon to do so, so to some, I am the sitting duck. No point in using cold blooded with this setup since the enemies already know where I am.)
Range - I've noticed there no range on the target finder.. Make it so it can only spot people from so far away maybe? Again, Im tired of Being half way across the map for somebody whos just looking down sights to see and mow me down because a little red diamond spotted a tiny part of my body.
Me- nerfing this long range sight will just cause the users to move on to DB, which is just as effective, and countered in the same way.
Adding even one or two of these would completely balance the sight out in my point of view, Again, Im not saying completely burn it out and Im not usually one to complain about stuff being over-powered but this one seems a little too "Newb Friendly" to me, Apart from that I think that Treyarch have done a good job balancing guns/attachments out.
Me- It is definately noob friendly, it was the first sight that caught my attention (BO1 and BO2 only) and my wife's as well (BO2 only). I just learned that I can do better without it, applying to my gamestyle that it has more cons than pros, therefore, not my preferred sight anymore. I don't have it in any of my classes anymore. I do however have a sniper zoom coldblooded class to rid of these threats, and force them to change their playstyle, at least for the games I have against them.
I'd like to hear your guys opinions on this, Without flaming me. Remember we all have opinions.
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Re: Ways to reduce the effectiveness of the "Target Finder"
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